Trolley Building

Alright people.

Got a question for you...

Once I can get the welder out and practice a bit :P, I will be building a couple of trolleys for the diesel Petters...

Now the only trolleys I have built were wooden, but a trolley is a trolley.

The trolleys will be built well, using 40mm x 40mm angle iron 5mm thick, built in a rectangle, with hopefully a 8mm square plate for the engine mounting point.
The only thing I haven't fully decided is whether to build a trolley or a barrow type yet...

What I want to ask, is why does everyone mount their engine so the crankshaft runs parallel to the wheel axles?
Quite a few engines then require the wheels to be chocked so the trolley doesn't go walkabout...

I was thinking about it, as I wondered about mounting the diesels so the crankshaft runs front to back on the trolley...
That would not only mean the trolley would be easier to maneuver around as it wouldn't be so wide, it also probably wouldn't have to be chocked as much.


Any ideas or thoughts?

Kev.

Kev, the first thing that jumped to mind is it's going to be heavy being of all metal construction so I think 4 wheels would be easier to move about rather then 2. I've often wondered myself the same question about the way an engine is mounted on to the trolley. I've seen a few mounted sideways so to say and they look odd, as you get used to seeing them mounted flywheel to wheel side. Also it may be more stable as in the height if mounted the "normal way". It is easier to swing them if the flywheel is to the edge also to run something from it, but if you plan on putting the crank end at the rear of the trolley that shouldn't cause a problem. Sorry couldn't be of more help, so waiting now to see the views of others.

Stu.

that was on a 2 wheeled trolley very heavy to move around and that was on wood, defo go with 4 wheels, i cant give you any advise on how to mount it, as i just slap um on there and hope its ok , sure the others can help more

I am going to throw a spanner in the works now
Steel will make it very Heavy, it will Bounce around more, and if you have any rattles on the engine it will make it sound Louder.
But fitting the engine on the trolley with flywheels face the opposite way as the wheels, if you are planning to run some thing off of it and this Jams it will more than likely Pull the engine over.
Where if the the engine is fitted the other way it will just pull it towards what ever your drive and the belt should fall off.
If you still want to use steel fit Rubber bushes in between engine and trolley this will help.
I hope this al makes sence
Chris

i have to agree, although it is down to personal preference, steel is so heavy, i had a lister A which was on a steel trolley, it weight so much it was unreal, adam and john will back that up, if you want any help in building it give one of us a shout.

ps if you did want wood, cornwall wood treatments in st day do a 8 foot length of treated 4"x3" for £8 and they cut it perfect, i always use them

Well I'm not really worried about the weight :P
I'm a big lump myself :P

I was planning on vibration mounting the engine anyway, so thats not a problem...

I do see what you mean about if the belt jammed though :S...

My dad was a professional joiner, so building one out of wood wouldn't be a problem :P
I just want to build it out of steel for the extra strength without it being too big... (have to fit the engines through the side passage of the house at the moment...)

Will have to go and take some accurate measurements and see if the engines will fit through if mounted traditionally...

Its the AVA1 thats going to be the problem more than the PAZ1...

Well I'm not really worried about the weight
I'm a big lump myself

I have a set of drawings for a Lister D trolly, It could be adapted for a Petter etc If anyone wants a copy give me a shout.

Paul

Remember the flywheels shouldnt reaaly point towards the spectators for obvious reasons.