New Toy, Bamford tulip top
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New Toy, Bamford tulip top
i went to collect the 1921 tulip top today and gotta say im in love with it already, it was lagged in dirt when i got it, which has all been removed now, i have not ran it yet, as want to change greese in the cups and oil in the dripper, i also wanna change the fuel, got lots of questions so will ask after ive posted the photos, the wood frame was completley rotten, but got something lined up. 







now the questions
1 does anyone know how many of these were made
2 what aditive do i have to add to the fuel and at what ratio
3 shall i give it a lick of paint or leave it normal
4 i have a gaurd for it but really would like a good one, anyone no were i can get one
ill have more later, forgotten the others
2 what aditive do i have to add to the fuel and at what ratio
3 shall i give it a lick of paint or leave it normal
4 i have a gaurd for it but really would like a good one, anyone no were i can get one
ill have more later, forgotten the others
Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
Hi Ryan!
Thats a lush engine!!!
Id say leave the paintwork as it seems in good condition
Id say use unleaded because leaded was not invented yet
Adam
Thats a lush engine!!!
Id say leave the paintwork as it seems in good condition
Id say use unleaded because leaded was not invented yet
Adam

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the reson why i asked
about the aditive, is the chap who had it used a mix, as he said unleaded was to much for the engine, and old 4 star was the better in these engines, i have no idea 
Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
ryan wrote:about the aditive, is the chap who had it used a mix, as he said unleaded was to much for the engine, and old 4 star was the better in these engines, i have no idea
Old 4 start has a higher octane level then unleaded, lead was put it for engines that had soft valve seats, as that engine is that old as Statman said 4 star wasnt invented so it would have used unleaded any way.
get some good thick grease, make sure the timmings right on in, dont want it to back fire and catch on fire!
Cheers Steve

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right so straight unleaded
also is that a webster mag on it, i cant tell as the plate has worn away, looks like a webster 
Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
the only person i can think of for a splash guard would be frank gelder (franks tanks) as they make them for amancos and other such engines.
you can add some sdditive into the fuel, something that lubricates the upper engine could harm, though excessive quantites will cause bad firing.
if the paints original, then maybe leaving it be and wiping over with linseed oil would be a sound move, touching up isnt really an option as it will stand out if you dont get the shade right. so leave it as is, or go the whole hogg!
lovely engine regardless
Paul
you can add some sdditive into the fuel, something that lubricates the upper engine could harm, though excessive quantites will cause bad firing.
if the paints original, then maybe leaving it be and wiping over with linseed oil would be a sound move, touching up isnt really an option as it will stand out if you dont get the shade right. so leave it as is, or go the whole hogg!
lovely engine regardless
Paul
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what to do what to do lol
i think ill leave the paint as it is clean , as for the fuel im lost , as in what mix to use 
Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
Unleaded will be fine Ryan, don't worry!
Pete.
Pete.

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Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
you could try a addative but i would try without 1st so your not waisting your money.
Cheers Steve
Cheers Steve

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Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
Very nice boy!
shes a beast, I am going to do your shot blasting in a bit, you still coming down tomorrow? Please pm me as my phone network is down near here.
cheers
shes a beast, I am going to do your shot blasting in a bit, you still coming down tomorrow? Please pm me as my phone network is down near here.
cheers

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Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
Ryan, that is a great find well done. I love the tulip tops
The picture is of my mates tulip top on an original bamford trolley. The flywheels are skimmed on this, but are usually painted silver. This one runs on unleaded fine.

The picture is of my mates tulip top on an original bamford trolley. The flywheels are skimmed on this, but are usually painted silver. This one runs on unleaded fine.


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Re: New Toy, Bamford tulip top
ryan wrote:i wasnt expecting it to be so heavy so may end up trailer mounting it
haha, they are extremely heavy, maybe trailer mounting may b a good idea, i'd get a leaf sprung axle tho, they cope with having weight on them constantly, much better than suspension units would.
if i get the Fergy registered sucessfully, i'm taking it to shildon vintage vehicles rally in april, will tow a trailer of stationary engines behind, but i may mount my CS on the trailer and take it to its first ever rally.
dont think the fergy will be going to the 1000 engine though! lol
Paul
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might have a trailer lined up
its a pain in my ass really as didnt really want another trailer, but got to really now, dont look nothing to look at , then you try and lift it, good god its heavy 
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